how severely would you like to restrict the surveillance by the national security agency? >> i would like to apply the fourth amendment to third-party records. i don't think you give up your privacy when someone else holds your records. when i have a contract with a phone company, i think those are still my records. and you can look at them if you're from the government if you ask a judge. but the most important thing is, a warrant applies to one person. a warrant doesn't apply to everyone in america. so it's absolutely against the spirit and the letter of the fourth amendment to say that a judge can write one warrant and you can get every phone call in america. that's what's happening. i think it's wrong. it goes against everything america stands for. and i will help to fight that all the way to the supreme court. and we need the supreme court to re-examine privacy, the fourth amendment and our records. >> so you would ban, if you could, mass data mining. this huge vacuum hoovering up of information? >> i'm for going after terrorists with every tool we have. i'm not oppos